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Paul Hamernik says that “green light” laser surgery has meant he can enjoy his life again.
As a stock car racer, Paul Hamernik thought his frequent restroom breaks were an occupational hazard. He simply accepted that his bladder was small and his nerves ran wild — until he learned his PSA level was increasing.
“PSA, or prostate specific antigen, is a normal substance produced by the prostate, usually found in an increased amount in the blood of men who have prostate cancer, infection or inflammation of the prostate, and benign prostatic hyperplasia,” explains Lance Mynderse, M.D., a Urologist at Mayo Clinic in Rochester.
“My local doctor suggested I go to Mayo and be evaluated,” says Paul. “He said Mayo had advanced tests and procedures to diagnose and treat prostate conditions that weren’t widely available.”
Fortunately, Paul didn’t have prostate cancer. But, because of his age and PSA level, Mayo Clinic invited him to participate in a pharmaceutical trial studying the effect of dutasteride in preventing prostate cancer in men with elevated PSA levels.
“I didn’t know anything about the drug, but I wanted to help advance medical science, so I decided to enroll,” says Paul. “I’ve always been proactive with my health, that’s why I started having my PSA tested early.”
During the four-year, double-blind study, Paul took the medicine – the drug or a placebo – every day. Half-way through the study, he had a prostate biopsy and urine flow analysis.
“I remember having an ultrasound on my bladder after emptying it,” recalls Paul. “The technician thought the ultrasound machine wasn’t working and she went to get help.”
The equipment was working and what the technician initially saw proved accurate. Paul’s bladder was holding three times the amount of urine that it should. It had become distended and he was unable to empty it completely.
“If I hadn’t been in this clinical trial, being monitored the way I was, this urine flow problem probably would not have been diagnosed until after my kidneys were involved,” says Paul.
Clinical trial participant turns patient
“Paul’s bladder problem was caused by an enlarged prostate, which often leads to bladder outlet obstruction and restriction of urine flow,” says Dr. Mynderse. “Paul’s condition was benign prostatic hyperplasia or BPH – a natural aging process that happens in all men.” While all men experience BPH, not all have symptoms – and certainly not as severe as Paul.
This clinical trial identified a problem that normal healthcare wouldn’t have found since Paul didn’t have any complaints, and a urine flow analysis wouldn’t normally be done. Unfortunately, Paul wasn’t a candidate for surgery when his enlarged prostate was diagnosed because his bladder had lost function. “When the bladder becomes that enlarged, it loses much of its elasticity and squeeze,” explains Dr. Mynderse.
At that point, reducing the size of the prostate might not help, as the bladder still can’t empty completely if it’s not capable of squeezing, even when you eliminate the prostate obstruction “Therefore, we needed to ensure bladder function would return before scheduling surgery,” says Dr. Mynderse.
What this meant for Paul, was regular, self-catheterization five times per day. “I was terribly bummed,” says Paul. “First, it’s very difficult to find a sterile environment & many places aren’t accommodating.” Paul’s employer offered a special restroom and he learned some other tricks that helped, but didn’t change his situation.
“I ended up clinically depressed because the catheter interfered with my ability to race stock cars, which I’ve done almost all my life,” says Paul. “There’s no support group for catheters and I felt alone and very odd.”
“Going green” with surgery
Paul’s diligence paid off. “His bladder function returned and we were able to schedule a special surgery called photoselective vaporization of the prostate or PVP,” says Dr. Mynderse.
This surgery is often called green light laser surgery, because it emits a highly visible green light. “The green light is created by lithium triborate, a chemical used as the lasing medium,” says Dr. Mynderse.
Mayo Clinic urologists pioneered the use of laser energy to treat benign prostatic hyperplasia in the 90s. In fact, Mayo’s Department of Urology is the birthplace of the”green light” laser for treatment of BPH. Today, Mayo Clinic is only one of a handful of medical centers in the U.S. that are considered “Centers of Excellence” using PVP laser therapy for the treatment of BPH.
“During the surgery, we vaporize the prostate through an instrument placed down the urethra, called transurethral – and there’s no cutting,” explains Dr. Mynderse. “We direct the light on the inner surface of the prostate and there’s very little bleeding. The by-products of the light energy interaction with the prostate and hemoglobin are bubbles and fine debris.”
Imagine the prostate as an orange. The laser vaporizes or shrinks the fruit or tissue occupying the core and leaves the rind intact. The procedure is performed on an outpatient basis, under anesthesia. “After 12 hours, we remove the catheter and the patient is able to urinate immediately,” says Dr. Mynderse. “This is a significant shift in patient treatment from the historical standard TURP method.”
Transurethral resection of the prostate (TURP) has been the gold standard surgical treatment for enlarged prostate for decades. However, up to 25% of patients experience complications after TURP, including excessive bleeding, urinary incontinence and sexual impotence. TURP also subjects patients to risks inherent in any surgical procedure, as well as a hospital stay of 1 to 3 days and recovery time of 4 to 6 weeks.
“More than 90 percent of all treatment for enlarged prostate is done using laser methods at Mayo Clinic Rochester, which performs about 350 of these procedures each year,” says Dr. Mynderse.
“I left the hospital the same day and with no pain,” says Paul. “Dr. Mynderse is my hero because he got rid of my catheter and I enjoy life the way I use to. Without Mayo’s clinical trial and leading-edge treatment, who knows where I’d be?”
Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn., is ranked among the Best Hospitals for urology by U.S. News & World Report. Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale, Ariz., and Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, Fla., are ranked high performing for urology by U.S. News & World Report.



Mr. Hamernik:I just read your story regarding “green light” surgery. I have just been dianosed with urinary retention due to enlarged prostate. Apparently I have been walking around with a liter of urine for quite some time now. I started self cath, 4-5 times per day just last week. The article states that your bladder recovered and you were able to schedule surgery. My question is “How long did it take for your bladder to recover after you started to cath?” I am very afraid that my bladder won’t recover and i will need to self cath for the rest of my life. I hope that you don’t mind my asking this question. Thanks. Jerry Wesner. Glen Mills Pa.
Mr. Hamernick, I had green light laser PVP surgery 4 weeks ago and at this time I am not experiencing much improvement. Matter of fact, every time I urinate the pain on a scale of 1-10 is usually a 5 or 6 and I have bouts of urgency some days were I have to urinate every 20-30 minutes. So far this procedure which was done by my Urologist in Bullhead City, AZ. has not improved my life. Sometimes I think I was better off before when at least I had no pain while urinating but then also often most days. My Urologist says complete recovery is 6-8 weeks. How long was it when you can say you had complete recovery? Maybe I’m expecting improvement to soon but this has worn me down substantially phycologically and physically. I am a male 68 years old, and otherwise was in excellent health and very active. Appreciate your input.
I had the prostate laser surgery in 2011 at Mayo and it was perfect with little or no side effects. I could urinate with no pain within a few days. I had some small leakage for about a week but after that not a problem. I think it depends a lot on the expertise of the surgeon as to what the results will be. I live very close to Rochestor, MN so it was very easy for me to go there. I had been self cathing for about two years due to some treatment I had for prostate cancer that enlarged my prostate. It was the best day of my life to get back to normal. I hope you will progress as quickly as possible. I am so glad I chose Mayo to have this done. They are the experts.
who was the doctor in Bullhead City Az
My husband is looking to have this done
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My father also has been diagnosed with BPH. His Urologist recommended either “Green Light Laser” or “Plasma Button Vaporization”. As I began to research both procedures both come with some great risks & blogs from patients who had negative results with these procedures. So my question is: Did your Urologist offer both procedures or how did they decide “Green Light” was best for you?
I have a lg. prostate and am on a catheter. My surgeon says I have to have the turp operation. He claims it will take 90 min. and I would spend one night in the hospital. I was told that could be numerous side effects. He said the prostate is too lg. to use a laser treatment. This sounds odd since the Mayo Clinic said they do 90% of these operations with a laser.
It is now March 13 and I haven’t received an answer to my statement shown above. Please answer. Thank you Ray Waldsmith
Not to complicate the issue, but there is now a thulium laser, which is virtually a bloodless procedure. It has advantages over green light. It has a forward-firing laser fibers combined with high water absorption which results in reduced chance of inadvertent tissue damage.
Emma! Thank you for posting! WHERE can you find this new laser? And is it being used on BPH patients? we live in TN. and no GOOD DOCTORS close for this problem!! BUT we can drive! Ha That was so nice of you to post!! Thanking you in advance! Brenda
Two days ago I had TUVP surgery with the green light laser. I feel compelled to post my experience because so many of the postings I have found on-line have described painful, prolonged recovery. I’m 60 and in otherwise good health but had a severely restricted urethra that months of taking FloMax and AvoDart did not relieve. The morning after my TURV I took the catheter out myself (per my surgeon’s directions) because there was no blood in my urine. A few hours later I urinated, a little painfully, but with a flow like I was 16 again. Now 48 hours after surgery I’m in wonderful shape, pain free and really relieved (no pun intended). I’m taking an antibiotic for a week but I don’t even need an aspirin for the discomfort. I slept 9 hours last night with no leakage and urinated like a teenager in the morning. The TUVP procedure done well is a godsend.
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Wow what a trooper you were to participate in the study for four years! I’m glad that you were able to have the surgery to be free of catheters and hope that this surgery will continue to help more and more people.
I HAVE LARGE PROSTATE BUT NOT SO BAD AS THE DR, SAID BUT PSA TEST IS 4.7 AND DECREASE WHEN I GET ANTIBIOTIC CIPROFLOXACINE FOR 20 days. i use cardura 4 mg once a day . i havnt any problem with urination or burn during the unrine but i feel something hard inside me making me feel bad . i AM AFRAID IF MAY HAVE PROSTATE CANCER IN THE FURTURE . SO CAN I DO LIGHT LEASER SURGERY NOW OR WHAT I DO